K 

So lately I’ve been thinking about American snow versus Japanse snow, and more specifically like California snow versus Nagoya snow versus Hokkaido snow and Asahikawa specifically in Hokkaido. Never been to – what’s the famous city for snow in Hokkaido?

C 

Sapporo.

K 

Yeah, we’ve never been to Sapporo. So, and then comparing and contrasting that to what you describe as Alaskan snow.

C 

Well, I’m full disclosure. It is snowing here. We woke up to a snowy day.

K 

Yeah. So yesterday. It was It started snowing here in Nagoya, which is really early. Because it usually snows in I want to say February.

C 

Yeah. Usually, like the first week of February.

K 

Yeah. So it’s really early. So I was like, Ooh, snow day. And then we woke up and today it was like really snowy like it. It snowed all night. And for me, it’s really exciting when there’s like two inches of snow on the ground. I’m like, Oh my gosh, there’s like an inch of snow on our balcony rail. And you can see the snow falling down on like snow day snow day. It’s snowing. Like, is super, super exciting. Yeah, I am totally like singing that song and everything with just knowing Japanese. I like it was such like a lot long, because I was like, hey, there’s snow on our balcony and you’re like, Uh huh. It’s just like dead air.

C 

I think you’re describing last year because I was excited this year. I pointed it out to you.

K 

Yeah, but when I start talking about the details of the snow, okay. Yeah, it’s very warm up like it is snow falling from the sky. There’s like two inches on the ground.

C 

Maybe because you’ve been watching hot ones. I’m thinking like, okay, yeah, you’re describing to me that you just found sriracha sauce. And you like it but you don’t like Tabasco.

K 

What are you talking about?

C 

You’re like discussing

K 

I don’t like hot sauce because I don’t like vinegar based beverages and vinegar based sauces. I know that and say that’s like, I can handle spice. I made my own hot sauce.

C 

And I’m saying on the snow thing. I don’t think you can handle spice. I don’t think you could handle spicy snow.

K 

So now when we went to I asked him when he went to Asahikawa I said, now do you feel like I’ve really been in snow. I feel like you’ve been in snow. But you were like this is still nothing compared to Alaska.

C 

Because it didn’t snow while we were there. There was snow and there was ice. It was cold. There ice sculptures. He was it was a wonderful trip. But you didn’t wake up like unable to open your door because it’s not so much.

K 

We were staying in a really fancy hotel but we saw snow drifts as tall as me. See from cleaning the snow off the road.

C 

That makes it a snow bank but not a snow drift. Okay. Yeah, language.

K  

So we saw snow banks those banks. Yes. Thanks to any as tall as you know. And you’re like this still isn’t real snow. Like it’s snow, but it’s not Alaska. Yeah. So what’s Alaska snow? What’s the difference?

C 

What depends on where you are. Cuz like if you’re in Juneau, it rarely snows. And down in Sitka, where like the TV shows like yukon gold on such snow is like, unusual happens every year. But it’s like having a really hard rain in the San Francisco Bay area. It happens but it’s not all the time. But rain is not unusual. Real snow is like the cold that goes with it. So what I think is, if you can make a snowball, it’s probably not that cold.

K 

We talking about if you can make a snowball. That’s probably not that cold.

C 

Okay, so I spent most of my childhood in Fairbanks which you know, yeah.

K 

And our music not to Okay. They remember you. Our music knows love you, baby. They really do. I know that they don’t tweet at you that they love you. But in my heart. I feel like every music note is a huge shad fan. Yeah. And they just absolutely love and love you. And remember all the details that you share about you. Excellent. Yeah, you’re a total rock star in their mind.

C 

So it was more than 30 years ago.

K 

And they remember you from more than 30 years ago, even though we’ve only had another one cast.

C 

Yeah. And the ones who aren’t even 30. Yeah.

K 

How long have we had the podcast? Like? Not quite

C 

three years. Okay, May will be three years.

K 

So we started it in May. We started in May and there was no snow. See, I brought this back around. You’re just gonna segue back into what you were saying. Yeah. And I want to see to show everybody at home that I can. I can bring us back around.

C 

You can maneuver at even when there’s snow,

K 

thank you see, but that was like a hard push. I feel like mine was more like a snuff, snuff. Oh yeah, it was snow soft. It was not. It was a soft landing. I’m just gonna make that part of the lexicon. Well, it’s thinking it’s like a soft landing into snow. And that turned into soft in my brain. Yeah. So it’s a soft landing in the snow. But Snow is not soft. And that always disappoints me that snow is not soft, even if you crack like the ice layer over the snow, like. So. For those that have never experienced now I’m going to talk about my experience with snow. And I’m going to have Chad talk about Alaska snow delays aside to interrupt him, because Hello, it’s the music’s in Japan. Thank you. Lovely to be if I didn’t interrupt you to just blather on about something some other podcast. Right? So I think that would be the writer strike on my solo podcast where there’s no one to interrupt. This is why I don’t do the interviews. Yeah. I’m a horrible interviewer. I think, like I can think of really great interview questions. But at the end of the day, I feel like a horrible interviewer.

C 

I think the tempo is odd to you. Like when we see because you and I like to watch interviews. Yeah, I love what interviewers just have a tempo.

K 

They do they have been up but up but up but up. And it’s so weird, because you would think as a professional therapist, I would be good at interviewing people.

C 

Yeah, but I feel like interviewing is making the conversation interesting. And therapy was making the conversation meaningful.

K 

Yes. And I think I find things when they’re not meaningful. I tend to be like, Okay, you bored me? Right. And I think that’s what makes me a bad interviewer. Because if the answer bores me, I want to cut it off.

C 

Yeah, I think that does make you not a great interviewer, but a very good therapist and coach.

K 

Yeah, because I’m also an executive coach. I’m transitioning from therapy to executive coach. But other than me, because you’ve been executive coach me. I’ve been executive coaching for the past 10 years. But that wasn’t my main state. There was an I’m switching my main site to executive coaching, because of a myriad of reasons. All of them positive. I think I feel for me, it’s just growth, professional growth. But for me, I feel like if someone bores me, Why let them go on and see the disappointment in my face. And I just I think makes me a bad interviewer. Because when I was interviewing on the virus trial, I had to interview Rasta, and it was just so boring. I was like, there’s a better more. I know that you have a better answer. Why aren’t you getting it? Right? Try this out. Yeah, I feel the same way with you. Like, why are you saying this thing? That’s so boring when you have like, a way more interesting answer. Because I know you so well. But I feel like I pretty much know everybody that would be in a situation to interview. Yeah,

C 

you know me snow. Well, yeah, I

K 

know you snow. Well, because we’re doing that now because I did soft. Yes. And so blame it on me. Don’t blame Chad for this one. And why does the customer thing. So we started in May, there was no snow, the snow now, snow is not soft, snow is wet and hard. And that’s always been disappointing to me. So snow is wet. And then because it’s wet, it gets like a heart I show over it that you can crack that. So this is my Stokes to experience. And my snow experience comes mostly from Tahoe in California, which is not the northern part of the state. And it’s I think it’s like the most northern part of the state. Yeah,

C 

right on the border with Nevada because Nevada is part of the town is Yeah,

K 

so when it was snow, like it was snow overnight and the snow would freeze. And frozen snow is weird to me. And you can like some of it you can crack the ice some of it you can’t crack the ice it’s just turned into ice now it’s it’s like snow colored ice. We can crack the the ones that you can crack the ice when you get underneath it. It’s fluffy, but it’s not soft and fluffy and wet so it’s just wet. And that’s always been disappointing to me how wet snow is like I know the science behind snow but I just wish that snow was dry.

C 

see snow is dry if it’s cold enough.

K 

Yeah, yeah. Because you’ve had soft snow

C 

Yeah, like when I went with you had soft. Oh, you’re saying powder like soft.

K 

But I don’t feel like powder when they call it powder. I don’t feel like it’s soft, powdery snow. I feel like that is a ski term and it’s not actually the texture of powder. I’ve touched now that’s supposed to be the texture of powder and did not feel like powder and I was really disappointed.

C 

Okay, possibly boring digression. Okay. One of the clients that I use

K 

please don’t interrupt me, I really want to say this

C 

when I was an editor full time, one of my clients worked at the and I forget the full name of it. But there’s a Japanese Institute for studying textiles. And one of the things I study is how soft things feel. Okay. And so he studied how soft fabrics feel. And what makes fabric feel soft. Yeah. And no, it doesn’t have the spring Enos that makes it feel soft, because if you press that hit compact, yes. But it really feels soft. When you’re jumping off the second story of a building into a big pile of snow. And it catches you and like, crunches down at a rate that it’s not at all painful to jump off of a second storey building. Have you done this? Many many times?

K 

Don’t do this. You don’t know what’s in us now. Like what if a passport because so for me, I’m obsessed with people jumping on the pitchforks, okay. And that’s because it’s fork in my life. And hey, so we would go to Alabama every summer watch the music that’s already now. And almost every summer somebody would jump onto a pitchfork. And I never understood why. And I think that one of my cousins is like super mean, and super angry. The oldest of my, one of my uncle’s caves is super mean. And I think that I believe that he buried the pitchfork in the hay. And people will always come a

C 

because I was like, you’re talking about jumping onto a pitchfork. Like you’re talking about jumping at a hay, which is not jumping in a snow.

K 

And hey, it’s not soft. Like I would go on hay bale. Right. I went on one table, right. I never went again. Because it was so uncomfortable. It was so itchy and poking through. It ran my stockings for once. I was just way too cute. I didn’t get why everybody wore overalls. Like that’s what you’re wearing. Yeah, I want to look cute. I’m going on a date. You know, I want to look cute. Okay, but

C 

when Mad Money you’re cute outfits was overalls. Several you’re cute

K 

because this is like see this impacted me for the rest of my life.

C 

And did you realize that overalls are cute? Yeah, overalls,

K 

overalls with like, a sports bra is extremely sexier overalls with the crop top. Get that little you know, side. Pika scan. Yeah, we’re like, you’re like flashing a little bit, but not really flashing anything. And I had the sexiness of overalls explained to me, after my lines are ran and I looked a mess. And my cousin explained to me why overalls are sexy on women and what it means and all of this, which I don’t buy into anymore. Plus, they’re super comfy. So I was like, Okay, people think this is attractive. So I’ll wear it. Yeah. And that was because of that, hey, they’ll write the one and only ever went on. I was invited on many. And I’m like, No, I don’t want to write on that hard thing. And then people were like, Hey, let’s jump from the second story of the bar. And I’m like, you guys should check for pitchforks. Like, there’s no pitchforks. We clean the hand. I’m like, every summer. Every summer, I come here and every summer, one of y’all jump from the thing onto pitchfork. And so what happens is several people can jump and they don’t land on a pitch for like the first person is considered the bravest. I feel like the fifth person is the bravest, because by then the haze displaced, but not displaced enough to build a pitch for and pitchfork does damage like a pitchfork could kill you. And I really believe that. My mean cousin did it on purpose every year

C 

probably do because I have a lot of mean people in your family as do I.

K 

Yeah, my family is super mean. So that made me paranoid about jumping in snow. I don’t like to jump in things that I can’t know what like watch it be constructed and know that it’s sick. Okay, I

C 

was just gonna say this is cases where I had constructed it myself because I made money sometimes pushing and pushing snow off of roofs because in Fairbanks, the snowpack gets so deep, it will damage your roof,

K 

which is just the bomb to watch. Like I watch it for hours on YouTube. Yeah, snap being removed from risks. I just love it. I love the string ones that

C 

she’s cut her teeth cutter.

K 

I love that.

C 

So I do that. And so I did that for our house. Me and my brothers did that for our house. And then we bought a snow plow. Like a not a mechanical one just as big scoop that you could take up on the roof. Yeah. And then I also did a lot of unpaid labor for the Mormons of pushing the snow off of us.

K 

And so my paranoia would be that somebody at a spike would put a really sharp snow shovel in that my life They would put the snow shovel on the ground so that they could feign ignorance that there was a snow shovel in the snow. And so he would just leave it there and it would be underneath the snow that was already on the ground. Yeah. So when you’re shoveling it, you don’t really when you’re taking it off the roof. You don’t realize that they’re at the very bottom of all of this snow is a snow shovel that can slice you in half. That’s my big. I don’t want to be sliced in half. I think jumping off the sea.

C 

Like I do want to be sliced in half. Like I don’t want to be sliced in half.

K 

I don’t want it. I feel like you don’t care. You’re like Danger Mouse. You don’t care. Like I’ll risk being sliced in half.

C 

This was 30 years ago. Yeah. 30 years ago. You’re

K 

like I hang out with people who might not. You couldn’t get sliced in half. 30 years ago you could and they’re

C 

okay. If you could

K 

the sites you are now serve as a third of the size I am not we’re salt and pepper shakers. I

C 

answer me this.

K 

Is it Riddle me this answer me. This

C 

is me. This is I don’t want you to rattle me.

K 

Riddle you with with ice picks?

C 

Right. If people could get sliced in half by jumping into snow. Yeah. Do you know anybody now who got sliced in half 30 years ago by jumping in the snow?

K 

They didn’t know anybody who’s ever been sliced in half. It’s just the fear I have. It’s a phobia. I didn’t know what the name of the phobia is. But I’m terrified of being sliced in half. And like I worry at random times. Like I just worry. So when I used to ride motorcycles like on the back of motorcycles I don’t ever ride on the front, because I don’t know how to drive a motorcycle. But I would really be worried and I would wonder if they got sliced in half if I could jump off the bike and time to not get sliced in half.

C 

Yeah on that. I don’t know cuz I only knew one person who got sliced in half in Fairbanks when I was there. And they were on a snowmobile not not not a motorcycle, but it’s exactly what you’re thinking. Like they were riding a snowmobile really fast and there was a wire at the right level that just cut them.

K 

So why are you so reckless? You know, someone’s been sliced in half. I don’t. But you know, it’s a real thing that can happen that people are just wiling out riding snowmobiles, jumping off buildings. Why are you wiling out? Like your life was so dangerous, people were getting injured, like seriously injured all of the time. One of your best friends got blown up, like come on.

C 

I mean, among the like, I wasn’t the fundamentalist Mormons, but among the fundamentalist Mormons, 30% of boys don’t reach adulthood. They died before adulthood, that is wild, right? And you’re doing the stuff that they do the stuff that they do, like, this is population action, unpaid labor, like

K 

that has wild to me, like you tell me like, one in 10 of my friends is going to die doing this free? How do I know? Three in 10? That’s wild. So three and 10 people are gonna die doing living the way you’re living? How do you know you’re not one of the three? I mean, you know now because retrospect right? But how did you know then that you weren’t one of the three? Or were you just like wiling out and like I don’t care?

C 

I was like, it’s out of my control.

K 

How is it out of your control?

C 

I mean, so obviously, this is gonna be like things that if you’re going to be traumatized by death, you should, you should click off the episode, but

K 

is there a target talking about people dying on the snow episode, but now I’m interested like, why that is so wild. Like how can I have been with you? for over 22 years? And I don’t know that three in 10 people in your age demographic when you were younger died doing the same stuff you were doing? Who am I not saying that your childhood was just so dangerous?

C 

Yeah, I don’t know. So,

K 

like all your broken noses and broken bones and stuff, but I’m still just like, Okay, that was up wild. walking down stairs.

C 

No suicides. Just like, yeah, suicide deaths. When I was in junior high school, two students died of accidents. Okay, I almost died in an accident. I lost. I lost teeth.

K 

Okay, no road bridge because you didn’t change your ways. After that. My tire

C 

got stuck in the railroad tracks. And while I was riding my bike down the railroad,

K 

uh huh. Why are you riding a bike down the railroad?

C 

Because it was only way across the bridge. Okay. Is a railroad bridge.

K 

Okay. Yeah, I know what you’re talking about. There’s no other way to do it. Right. It’s very standby news like 10 miles to the other bridge. Yeah, very stand by me for that.

C 

My freshman year,

K 

and with dead bodies and bullies Very stand by me.

C 

My freshman year of high school, a girl named Karen Zastrow got kidnapped and murdered.

K 

Don’t say people’s name now that’s too dark. Well, buddy, this is snow episode. I’m just saying lowdown I look,

C 

I looked it up later and they did eventually catch the people who did it.

K 

But wow, that took a time that

C 

did take multiple people from my high school dive in plane crashes.

K 

Like this is not the death episodes. Stop. Okay, please. Crickets Crikey.

C 

Okay, so the point is,

K 

why are you wiling out that way? Like, why are you living that way? Okay.

C 

The point is, I did not feel like I was taking a particular risk by jumping off of a building into a six foot pile of snow that I had just made.

K 

So for me, like I would open my mouth and let people throw drugs in my mouth, that I knew exactly zero people that died of a drug overdose. And I studied, like, how do people die of drug overdoses like what causes drug overdoses, and I built up my talents, and I knew how much I could do. And I knew at the, at the pinnacle of my drug use that I was the pinnacle of a drug user, your mind

C 

does not so small that you could meter it. So they could only throw a certain amount of drugs in there.

K 

You ask them what they flicked into your mouth afterwards. And then you know what you can put on top of it. Like, okay,

C 

so you’re not worried about what they might flick in your mouth. You just don’t want to interaction with anything you do later in the evening.

K 

Right? So you have to keep track of like what you’ve done that night. Like I’m not promoting drug use, don’t use drugs. Drugs are bad,

C 

whether I take my medication for the day.

K 

Yeah, so I know that I always started with a methamphetamine base, a methamphetamine and a tequila base. And so with the methamphetamine, tequila base, I know what I can add into the night, that’ll be good or bad. Okay, and with each new thing, like if someone’s flicking some acid into your mouth, you’re good for the rest of the night. Like you don’t want anything else. Or if you’re adding Special K, you don’t want anything else, or someone’s giving you like GBH or MDMA or like you just have to know what they gave you after they gave it to you to know what the ride is going to be, and to know if you should add any more passengers in. And so like, most times, if someone flipped drugs and tie him up, I would stop drinking.

C 

Yet this is not the kiss for that I met.

K 

No, this is not because for the Met was only doing tequila and alcohol. Yeah, I had already quit all of my illicit drugs. And one time we were hanging out, and I think I’ve talked about this before, on the podcast. He had, we had gotten pipes for a friend of ours. And I stumbled across some weed that I had had for like forever. And I’m like, I wonder if the sweetest snail is stale. Not snail is stale. And I told you I shouldn’t smoke it because I get paranoid or I clean. And I didn’t know which one I would do and so I smoked it and I got super paranoid. And I told you sees why I don’t smoke it like because you’re always going off and smoking weed. I’m like weed is not good for me. Like for like of all the drugs. The worst drug I’ve ever done is marijuana like the worst trips I’ve ever had? have been on marijuana and marijuana is classified the same as LSD. In terms of the drug chart for psychoactive it’s a psychotropic

C 

Yeah, I hadn’t smoked any since after you and I became a couple.

K 

No, you smoked one more time. One more time. Yeah, he smoked one more time. And after we were a couple because you went up and that was the orgy. And your friend’s sister came and was like trying to get you to have sex with them. And you’re like, I don’t want to have sex on

C 

this representation. Hmm. They did not do that

K 

is what happened. The music notes. No, this is what happened because already hashed it out. So if you want to know like, go back, and and you can get the full story. And you’ll see that I was totally right. Because when we hashed it out, Chad confesses that yeah, they want to totally. They totally want to fuck Chad.

C 

But in your mind, everybody does. Because who wouldn’t?

K 

Know? Every time I’ve said somebody wants to fuck you, you’re like, I don’t believe it. And I’m not gonna say who cuz I’m not gonna put them on blast like that. But we had somebody who was like, Come away with me. And let’s stay in the same hotel. And I was like, when you write up the elevator, you need to make it really clear that they’re never gonna go to your hotel room. Yeah. And then in retrospect, you’re like, that was a good tip that you gave me. Yes, because they would have wanted to come into my hotel room because they want to have sex with me. Damn.

C 

And I’m like, Why? Why?

K 

I don’t Yes, sexy beast.

C 

I don’t have body dysmorphia. Like simply those who do. But I just think why

K 

when I first met you, I told you you look like someone who’s good at sex. Yeah, you did say that. And so for me, I’m like, You look like someone who’s good at sex.

C 

Okay. And you know, do you know how I learned from reading books? Well, Australia tell you because I’ve been too afraid to tell you the real story. Okay, that’s

K 

the real story. Snow. That was awesome. Sorry for clapping. But that was the bomb. That was awesome. That was a good like, bring around because I’m like, I can talk about chat all day, which is so strange. If you follow us on Twitter, you’re like, but you guys aren’t having sex. And then like, but we used to, and I remember it. We’re just not doing it right now. Because we’re recording recording a podcast. Like we’re not wiling out like,

C 

I got a new mic. So thank you. So patrons who funded that? Yes. Thank you. patrons. We love you. And even with the new mic, it would be very hard to record.

K 

Yeah, it would be and it would be so obvious. Whenever someone’s having sex, even when they think they’re doing it discreetly in public places. That is so obvious. But then you don’t spot it. I spotted because I added music parts and stuff. I’m like, they’re having sex right now. Yeah. What are you talking about? I’m

C 

like, look at them. That’s why you always pointed out?

K 

Yeah, I do. Because if I see something, like if I see hard nipples on anyone, male or female, I’m like, nipples. Look, if I see underwear, I’m like underwear look. And if I see people having sex in public, I’m like they’re having sex look. Yes. Even if they’re doing it in the snow and getting frostbite. Yes, I bought it back around. Thank you. Okay, so you jumped off of and you’re saying that it’s soft, if you jump up into it, and I don’t think that

C 

I’m saying it doesn’t feel soft. But because it breaks your fall. You consider that soft? Yeah. Because Fairbanks is cold enough that the snow is crystal like crystals are very small. Okay. So it’s very fluffy unless it’s like, late.

K 

But even a glass snow is super fluffy. Right? So when I touch it with my finger and push it down, knowing Yeah, it’s not fluffy or enjoyable. If I work thermodynamic gloves, it’s still not fluffy, right? So

C 

it’s warm enough here in the quiet and it wasn’t a shakeout that when you push the snow down, the pressure makes it warm enough to partially melt. And when then you let it go. It refreezes into ice.

K 

So even when I catch the snowflakes, I don’t stick my tongue out because I don’t know where that air has been. Yeah.

C 

That air that you’re already breathing.

K 

That’s so different than putting it in my mouth. Like putting something that formed in it in my mouth. I don’t know what that snow has captured. Okay. I always thought it’s really gross when people like stick their tongue out in the snow.

C 

Well, when you and I were kids, I think you were still a kid acid rain. Yes, that is exactly what it’s

K 

like seriously, like in California, when it would rain. There was a point in time in my childhood, where you were advised to not leave your home because of the acid rain.

C 

Yes. And that’s what I exactly was gonna say is that that was the big thing was it’s acid rain, and it’s acid snow. And look, this fell on this forest and all of the trees died.

K 

Yes. and Canada was suing. Yeah, Canada was suing the United States because our acid rain was destroying Canada, right? Because it wasn’t doing anything. And we were just like, wiling out and polluting everything. And in Canada in the United States. And we made so much pollution in the United States that the the wind carried the pollution to Canada and Canada sued us. Yes. State. The country, one country sued another country over destroying the air quality. Yeah, it was so tragic. So that does stick with me. And I’m like, I don’t know what’s in the snow. I don’t know what it’s gathered. Right. You know, I know I’m breathing it in. But it’s different than like, ooh, let me get more.

C 

Yeah, it does concentrate like food. The fish are not inherently poisonous. That’s what they eat em concentrate. snuck me the same way.

K 

So did you guys have acid snow in Alaska? We didn’t.

C 

It was a big topic of conversation, because there was concern about it because Fairbanks was a very industrial town. So lots of pollution,

K 

and lots of oil production.

C 

Yeah. And Fairbanks itself is in a valley. So we get thermal inversion, which would make like really, really bad air quality days. But those are not the same days that snowed mostly

K 

because they were worried that the tea would come together. So I feel like my experience of California snow has been one of really dangerous snow and really fun snow. So like when I was a kid, it was I learned the snow was really dangerous because all of my childhood experiences with snow something bad always happened. Like there was, you know, lots of years of acid snows So we couldn’t go play in the snow. And then as soon as acid though stopped, my dad lived up in the hills. My mom was like, Okay, you can go to your dad and spend time in the snow. And I was obsessed with freezing my hands in the snow, and getting severe frostbite and frostbite doesn’t hurt. Recovering from frostbite. That hurts. That has to be seriously the most painful thing I’ve ever experienced. But as soon as my hands were healed, and they would let me out, of course, I would promise not to do it again.

C 

Even though having had frostbite does make you more susceptible to in the future.

K 

Ideal. And so the second time I went out barefoot, because it was on your feet. Yes, was my thing. And then when my feet healed because I couldn’t walk, but before my feet have fully healed, I crawled out in the snow, took off my shirt and everything and laid back and arms out in the snow. And they freaked I didn’t get frostbite that time because they were like, Okay, we can’t trust this little person. And they are completely irresponsible in the snow. And for me, snow and sand were the same thing. And so I was really young, and sound sound but the same thing to me. And they like structurally

C 

they’re, they’re not that different. They’re both crystalline, like, piles of crystals.

K 

Yeah, so I had to stay in the hospital. That was me as a kid. And then me as an adult. I’ve never been on skis. But I would go disc sliding, which is different than sled. It’s different than landslides. Like you sit in a desk and you hurtle down with no steering or anything. And you just hope that you land someplace safe, and not ram into a tree. So that’s way dangerous, but nobody I knew ever rammed into a tree even though you didn’t know Sonny Bono. Yeah, even though we were like, sliding down a mountain into a forest. Yeah. And it was really fun to go whizzing past the trees. And now I’m just like horrified thinking back of my younger self has been like, sliding through the trees. And like hoping to catch a sight of a deer or something. Because just flying at this point through the trees.

C 

Yeah, I think my equivalent would be there was a hill outside of town. It was like a mile long, it was straight. So we’d walk up it and then slid down the whole hill. Yeah, but it was an active road. So it was like, everybody, look. We had walkie talkies. Because this was before cellphones were widely available. We had walkie talkies. And so we’re like, is there anybody down? Coming? Like no.

K 

If we did not indulge in the slide, in Asahikawa and we don’t indulge in the snow slide here in Nagoya. And I just, I don’t know, I used to love slides. Like I used anything with a slide. I was a huge waterpark fan and everything. But by the time we had met, I was over waterparks I feel like I didn’t like being a parent at a waterpark. Yeah, we went to a couple and it’s just so not fun. Because if you standing at top to make sure that the kid is okay. And me standing at the bottom to make sure the kid is okay. Yeah. And it’s no, like you don’t get to do anything fun. And it’s the same. The same thing happened with snow slides. Like okay, you take them to the top. I’ll be waiting at the bottom. Let’s keep this kids safe. Yeah. And Ross didn’t get to do any of the wild stuff we did because we didn’t have any parental parental supervision. I think this is more like snow with parental supervision without delivery guys. It’s no different snow experiences. My mike want to start snowing even now to this day, I text rasa Dunkwa without your gloves. Make sure you wear your gloves. And he’s like, I’m not wearing my gloves. And if he comes over not wearing gloves, I will scold him at 27 years old object. What are you doing? It’s snowing. Okay. You want to get fast by their fingers are blue.

C 

Is there snow on the street? Then you can’t drive? Yeah, I don’t like him driving like today. There’s no snow on the street. It’s melting on the street. Yeah. But then I

K 

feel like black ice and so today Ross is not driving or going anywhere. Faster staying home because yes, I did test last tax class to stay home actually asked Roscoe to stay home yesterday because it snowed a little bit yesterday. And so we planned everything’s that Rasika stay home today. Yes. So that’s snow with parental supervision and no fun,

C 

like snow as it as an old person was a middle aged person. I just wanted to know can I do laundry today?

K 

So do you think if you were in Alaska, if we had lived in Alaska that you would have been okay with roster jumping off of the roof, for any reason,

C 

I don’t think I would have. I

K 

might not because you were just like professing. So we should say like all of the stuff we’re describing. Don’t do it. Like don’t do drugs. Don’t let people don’t take drugs that you don’t know what they are, that can kill you. I was incredibly stupid, incredibly young and incredibly lucky. Don’t ride a snow don’t get on a snow disk, like a round plastic disc at the top of the hill that has forest at the bottom. You can. I was again, incredibly young, incredibly stupid and incredibly lucky. I feel

C 

like the relative risk though. Take the snow disc between the

K 

two. Don’t do either. There’s no reason to do either. Like both things that I did were incredibly reckless. But here’s the thing. I never did drugs in the snow because I knew that I would get frostbite from when I was young. And I liked the buzz of I like the buzz of getting frostbite. Yeah, don’t don’t get frostbite. There are easier ways to get a buzz.

C 

Give me a buzz by the way.

K 

It gave me a rush. Yeah, like when I was little I was addicted to danger. We had like this furnace. Great. I told the story before. And we had a heater in the floor and I was like, Don’t step on it. It’ll burn your feet. And I got third degree burns because I stepped on it. And so here’s the thing while you’re damaging your body, it doesn’t usually hurt. It’s when your body realizes it’s been damaged. Yes. So for me, I always felt like the people who were saving me and giving me recovery. Were the ones hurting me like the fire didn’t hurt me. Your reaction to me touching the fire hurt me. Yeah, the Frostbite didn’t hurt me. Your reaction to the Frostbite hurt me? Yeah. Because that’s that’s still like more than the fire. The most mind bending, painful thing I’ve ever experienced or is bad. Yeah, it’s so. So so bad. I’ve have

C 

I’ve had frostbite multiple times and it is bad. If

K 

flu. It is mind blowingly bad. Like really? Just me holding this ball of snow. Yeah, I’ve

C 

never gotten frostbite from holding snow.

K 

I told you I they’ve heard me say before we went to cycads like don’t let me touch the snow.

C 

Yeah, like the time I got frostbite is because I had been you know, abandoned 10 miles outside of town and I was

K 

gonna be like healing clue neglectful parenting story. Yeah, clue tragedy. Yeah, clue. Cue. I can’t talk today.

C 

But I think also my my views on child labor have changed and

K 

now I’m saying if we have shoveled the snow, right, okay. Would you let roster jump off of the roof and anything because I’m against jumping off of roofs? Like I’ve never jumped off a roof, which is wild. Consider the other things I’ve done with my body. Right. It’s the pitchfork thing. The pitchfork thing really

C 

pitchfork in the snow. Yes, I

K 

was you. That’s a real risk. Yes. pitchforks are just in the randomness of places. Okay,

C 

let me ask you this. But have you ever seen anybody step on a rake and get bumped in the head? I

K 

knew you were gonna ask me. The answer’s yes. On a rake is just another pitchfork. It’s a shorter it’s a short pitchfork. Yeah. But I’ve seen lots of people do it and I have been responsible for it and advertently because one of my jobs was to rake the front yard. And I raked the front yard. And then I was sweeping. I had rake the front yard and I had raked. I had done the edger and I had raked up all the edgings and then you have to sweep the sidewalk after you do all of that. So I had put the edger and the rake up at the top right at the front of the gate. Okay, and so they open the gate and before they could even sit cuz it was on the walkway, right? They stepped on it and got slammed in the head. And they got spiked in their feet.

C 

So you were seven. Was this funny? No, I wasn’t seven. I was 12 Okay, I knew you were like way too young to be doing yard work.

K 

Unpaid yard work otherwise no, I got an allowance. I was paid. It was my chore.

C 

Yeah, this is a topic for another fun

K 

yeah, we’re against chores Rasta got free money. Yeah, his whole life Ross is like the most loyal person on earth. The most pampered and I could be like over parents eat and over pampered and

C 

I could do that because I started working when I was eight

K 

I didn’t do that because I started working when I was four or five putting my mother put together PC boards at home.

C 

Yeah, so

K 

yeah, yeah. Good dancing on our sides. So would you let Ross to play in the snow the way you played in the snow? Yeah,

C 

I would let him play in the snow the way I did. But not jumping off the roof. Not jumping off the roof because that to me that wasn’t playing in the snow that was like the reward for shoveling off the snow.

K 

So like the end of your high day Yeah. Jump off into the snow cuz that’s how you get off the roof. Right like they took away the ladder because you’re staying up there. A little snotty nose brat until you clean our roof you know way down

C 

you agree we don’t have to pay you

K 

like my sound way down. I’ll jump.

C 

Yeah, exactly like I would I would do this now I get to jump off my first like real job. No, like my fifth real job. I worked at a flooring store and the installers were like, you know, I installed the carpet. I get to have a beer and like should you wait till you get home?

K 

I installed the carpet I drank type peaked I had to reinstall that.

C 

We had one installer who Berber carpet is 13 and a half feet wide instead of 12 feet wide. So

K 

I don’t like Berber carpet. I think it’s industrial carpet and I know people like to put it in apartments because it is industrial.

C 

So I was like why does this guy work for us? Like because he’s the best installer like one of the best installers. I’m not gonna say his name even though he’s probably dead because I live.

K 

So for Berber Berber cop, a Berber carpet reference that people can globally look up on YouTube is if you look at the TV show The Office, the carpet that they had on that set for the TV show is Berber.

C 

Well that’s industrial Berber. So there’s also residential Barbara which the loops are a lot bigger and softer.

K 

And then No they’re not. And then there’s some not to me.

C 

And then there’s something called cut and loop where it’s a Berber carpet, but some of the loops have been cut open so that has some parts that are straight and not soft. It that is not soft. That is terrible. Yeah.

K 

None no Berber. I’ve never stepped on a soft Berber carpet and that it’s bad for the earth. It’s made of plastic.

C 

So this guy was an alcoholic. And he he got us up. He got somebody not me because I wouldn’t have done it. Yeah, somebody to load up his van with the carpet. He was already drunk. He drove out to the client’s house. And he couldn’t remember where the keys were supposed to catch. So he drove through the garage door and stopped the carpet. story.

K 

I feel so bad for the homeowner. Oh, we had to pay for it. Yeah, but could you imagine coming home? Yeah, that is the biggest What the fuck ever? Like, What in the fuck but your carpets installed? Yes. So carpet installers for me every carpet installer I’ve ever known has had some sort of substance abuse issue. So I don’t know if people who get get into flooring, get a stub, then get a substance abuse issue because how bad it is on the body. It’s really hard on the body to install floors on the

C 

body. And I think too big because most installers are paid by area. Yeah. And so the faster you work, the more money you make. So they work

K 

really dangerous. It’s a really dangerous job. Those should not go quickly. There was one guy I worked with no more glory stories. I know this story and no, just now,

C 

I wasn’t gonna tell the gory part. Made the people curious.

K 

Yeah, and they can hear about it on our Patreon if they want to hear it.

C 

This is not that story. Okay, this is briefly

K 

is this snare related.

C 

Well, not really.

K 

Where’s Oh, bad, we’re keeping things on track, but

C 

pointed out that we’ve been quite good for several weeks. We have

K 

been at that point. So like all the snow on our balcony has already melted except for on the very ledge of our balcony. And it’s like the trees are covered. Like you could shake a tree and get snow to fall on you. Yeah, I wouldn’t want to do that. I wouldn’t want to either, but I know people who would, which is odd that I wouldn’t want to either because I could give you like a brain freeze. It could like it could freeze. I’ve never wanted to freeze my face because I’ve always been afraid of losing my nose Nether strange phobia. I have I’m afraid that my nose is just gonna fall off one day

C 

like Tyco. Bing

K 

is that what it’s called?

C 

No, that’s the name of an astronomer who is famous for having a witness

K 

See, that’s me just be like really? I believe everything Charles says. I don’t have a phobia of my nose falling off. Yes, like waking up without it. Because it’s fallen off.

C 

One of the first things you told me is that I was not allowed to get your nose

K 

Yes. I told you like seriously don’t touch my face. What my eyelashes? And don’t get my nose? My three rolls and don’t touch my ears don’t make my ears. Like who’s doing any of these things to my beefs? You’d be surprised how many people want to get your nose. Yeah, you’d be surprised. Like as an adult just living in an adult world, you’d be surprised how many people wanted to get my nose. I don’t know. They’re just doing that other people. Like hit us up on Twitter if you’re an adult. Yeah, people want to get your nose. Because childhood never had that experience I had not. So I’m like, I want

C 

enormous nose. So like, why wouldn’t you want to get this? What is wrong with me that you don’t want to get this?

K 

So that was our digression and sort of talking about snow. So to wrap it up, snow is different everywhere. Like California snow is different than Australia. Snow is different than Hokkaido, snow is different than Nagoya snow is snow is different everywhere. I think that’s really cool. Yes, that’s now it’s different all around the world. So if you want to go like on a Snore, snore on a snow tour, I totally support you. And not every plant financially, but emotionally.

C 

Not every place has snow, but every continent has snow.

K 

Yes. And if you want to know about whatever we’re talking about on the pitch chunks, I can’t remember the topic because I have to pull it up. But we’ll be talking about something cool falls on Africa. Something Yeah, it’d be interesting,

C 

so it’d be even cooler than snow.

K 

Yes, it will be. Thanks for listening. I’ll talk to you next week. Bye. Bye.