K 

So lately, I’ve been thinking about Halloween because it just passed. And I’ve been thinking about Halloween around the world. But most specifically, I’ve been thinking about hauling in America versus Nagoya versus Japan. I don’t really know about Halloween and the rest of Japan because I don’t really care about Halloween. So I don’t research it. I just like what goes down in our city. And that that’s all that I know about. And so like, this year, Halloween in – I feel like Halloween and Nagoya hasn’t happened in like, two years.

C 

Yeah, that’s right. It didn’t happen at all last year because of COVID. And this year, it seemed busy outside, but I don’t know of any Halloween parties. I didn’t see anybody dressed up when I went grocery shopping. None of that.

K 

Yeah. And so we talked about it a couple years ago, and I’ve talked about last year. But we talked about it a couple years ago about how Halloween was just a pub crawl.

C 

Yeah.

K 

And it was sponsored by

C 

The pubs.

K 

Yeah, sponsored by a group of pubs or bars. There are more pubs and bars in Japan, and they would have Halloween costumes, and there was two competing bars that would do it. One was called Absolute Halloween, and I can’t remember what the other one was called, I think it wasn named after an alcohol. And you could buy your tickets early. And you could get admission and a drink at like five or six bars.

C 

I thought the other one was Sexy Halloween.

K 

Yeah, Sexy Halloween and Absolute Holloween. And you could buy tickets to either one of those. And there were about all told about 15 bars and when you combine the two that they were involved in, and they’re all walking distance from each other. So people in the Sakae area which is one of the downtown – Nagoya is an interesting city because it has two downtowns. Ekimae is the area around Nagoya station. And that’s considered downtown proper, but like business downtown. And then there’s Sakae, which is a different part of La Jolla. That’s also considered downtown. They’re both shopping districts. But Nagoya station

C 

I think Nagoya is more of a central business district but some shopping. A lot of office buildings there for like insurance companies and things the Nagoya towers are almost entirely office; they’ve got like 30 floors of offices and three floors of retail.

K 

So I I don’t think you go to the Kintetsu part of Nagoya. So the J – so the three sub, three or four train lines because there’s the Kintetsu, JR, Meitetsu, and and Higashiyama line. That all go to

C 

Well, the Sakuradori – the last two are subway lines.

K 

Yeah, and Sakuradori line.

C 

So those are all subway lines that go to Nagoya station.

K 

Yeah, so that’s six different transportation that go there as well as four buses. So it’s a major transportation hub because it’s where you get the train to go to the airport and so right close knit around the station is JR. And if you go to JR, it’s very much – and I don’t know why Chad doesn’t remember this. JR station is totally – has two malls.

C  

Well JR station is the largest train station in the world in terms of square footage. It’s the biggest in terms of how much space it takes up because it’s really tall.

K 

Yeah. So and it has restaurants and shopping and then down over by the Kintetsu line, it has shopping bars, restaurants, and it has everything from Gucci to Tokyu Hands. So Gucci is a high end brand – has Gucci and Louie Vuitton, and then Tokyu Hands is sort of like a mix and match shop. It’s not a dollar store but it’s kind of like

C 

it started as a DIY shop but they also sell imported goods ,so they do sell things like watches that might run into several $100

K 

Watches and wallets. So they – it’s like a wide price range because there’s also like a really upscale chocolatier. But it’s so weird because the upscale chocolatier is down in the basement, which I love this about Japan that like you can find some really expensive upscale stuff in the basement.

C 

Yeah.

K 

And for me growing up In California, something that’s in a basement, it was kind of sketchy. Like it’s – why is it located in the basement. But

C 

Here in Japan, it’s because they don’t want people looking in the window seeing how good it is.

K 

Well, it does create a feeling of exclusivity because they can have the entire floor. And it’s easier, it’s cheaper to get an entire basement floor than it is to get an entire floor higher up. And it’s harder, because the floor space, Japan does this interesting thing where the floor space gets bigger as the building goes up, because fewer things are allowed to be on the floor. And it will intermix it with floors that are jam packed. Like at Nagoya station, there are two floors of food – of restaurants that’s packed with different things. But then if you go up two floors from the packed restaurant floor, there’s a restaurant that has half of a floor and a look out. Right. Some nights you have to sometimes they charge, like, I don’t know, like I guess it would be anywhere between five to 20 bucks, depending on the night and the view the price to go on the outlet. The lookout changes, and sometimes it’s free. So that’s just a weird quirky thing about our city.

C 

Yeah, was like called Top of the Tower or something. We’ve been there a couple of times for events. And it tends to be like, if they’re not having an event, which they often are. You can get a drink ticket for like alcohol or soda and a view off of their viewing platform.

K 

Yeah, and that’s how they sell it is that you know, it’s a you’re buying a drink. You’re not paying for the view. So it’s, it’s weird. It’s there – it’s not weird if you live in Japan. I think it’s weird if you live, if you come from California, where I come from,

C 

I remember going to Embarcadero one in San Francisco for the view. And it was like $10 to go up to the top for an hour.

K 

That was not with me.

C 

No, that was when I moved to

K 

That was a date with someone else

K 

No I went alone. That was like 1995 when I first arrived and was living in San Francisco. I didn’t live in San Francisco with anybody else.

K 

You did live in San Francisco with somebody else.

C 

I had a roommate.

K 

Okay, so Chad does do this thing where Chad will remember dates with other people and think that they’re with me. And I’ll be like, you didn’t do that with me.

C 

This one I didn’t think you’d gone there.

K 

Okay. It doesn’t hurt my feelings. And it’s not a thing. It’s just like you didn’t. We’ve been together.

C 

How dare I, 22 years ago, have gone on a date with somebody else.

K 

23.

C 

23 Okay, yeah, cuz we’ve been together,

K 

I guess it could be 22 Because I could be 20 or so because the first couple years were open and poly. So

C 

That was like a very, very exciting time in my dating life where I was dating only you.

K 

Yeah. But you could have.

C 

Yes.

K 

You could have was is the point. So for me, Japan, like the most famous favorite costume in Japan, is something you can do yourself on the train on your way home from work. And so there are a lot of zombies.

C 

Yeah.

K 

And there are a lot of sexy, “sekushi”, things that fit underneath your work clothes. So there’s a lot because in the bars and clubs in Japan, there are lockers for you to store your purse and such.

C 

Right. So I had a thought about costume earlier today, despite it being after Halloween. I thought we have all of these little baggies of tissues from collecting them from years of people hand them out at stations.

K 

Yeah, and me obsessively collecting tissue because not every bathroom in Japan has toilet paper.

C 

Right. And I thought what if I had a jacket where they were like attached to it? And then some of them were ripped open?

K 

What would that be?

C 

I would be soft tissue damage.

K 

Oh, wow, babe.

C 

Right. It’s a shame I didn’t come up with that before Halloween.

K 

Nobody would get that one because the year that we sent Rasta out as an internet surfer.

C 

Right.

K 

He had to explain it. So we made him a keyboard. And he dressed in Hawaiian swim trunks and a Hawaiian shirt.

C 

Just for the record. That was not my suggestion. I have a lot of bad puns, but

K 

It was my suggestion because Rasta decided two days before Halloween that he wanted a costume. And I was like, what can I make in two days? Well, he has a Hawaiian colored shirt, and he has some trunks, flip flops. And then I made him a keyboard and he was an internet surfer. And then the year after that he went as – just got him a whistle, and he went as a lifeguard. And then the year after that, we found his forever costume, which was Superman, which he really enjoyed because he owns a suit and a Superman shirt underneath. And so he has like the glasses and his hair can do the Superman style. So when everybody would ask him what he was he would strike the Superman pose. Everyone would be like your my Superman and all the women – all the women would fawn on Rasta and that was like our guaranteed to meet your next girlfriend night was Halloween. But his last serious girlfriend he didn’t meet on Halloween. He met her through Tinder.

K 

Yes. I think Tinder… I think it’s fine.

K 

You think Tinder is what?

C 

Is fine.

K 

Yeah, I think any way you meet someone is fine.

C 

Well, yeah, absolutely. I think here in Japan, it might be a little bit more tender. Not tender, tame. Tame than in the US. Or not.

K 

No, it’s not.

C 

Okay.

K 

It’s not. So Tinder is more direct I think here in Japan. It says hookups it has, like, they fill it out more fully. And if they want hookups, they say hookups if they want friends they say friends, and they mean what they say there’s no,

C 

There’s no I put friend because I don’t want to scare people off but really I’m looking for a hookup.

K 

Yeah. At least that we came across. I’m not yawny today. I’m not Tani but I’m yawny. Was it Yani and Tani?

C 

No, it didn’t rhyme. I don’t know what it was.

K 

You don’t remember what it was?

C 

No, I know. I know what you’re talking about.

K 

Jani and Laurel. Laurel.

C 

That was the one. Yes.

K 

Yeah, that and the black and the blue and black dress or the blue and white dress. Or was it black and silver?

C 

I think it was blue and yellow. Like very different colors.

K 

I don’t know what color the dresses but I remember it was a thing. And I remember the people who posted it were so happy because everybody wants to be internet famous. But now nobody remembers them. So.

C 

So it’s just like, everybody want to go to heaven, but nobody want to be dead. Which is a song that we heard I think 15 times while we were having lunch.

K 

We were having conch salad in the parking lot of Winn Dixie.

C 

 Yeah.

K 

In the Bahamas, which is really, the conch salad was really good. Much to my surprise. Cuz I didn’t think of raw spicy salad would be good tasting.

C 

And I feel like that’s what Halloween here often is is just a raw spicy salad. It’s not actually that good tasting.

K 

I don’t think Halloween exists here anymore. Unless you’re an English teacher.

C 

Yeah. Probably right on that.

K 

Because for English teaching, that’s like a big draw to get people to come in for a sample lesson is the Halloween lesson.

C 

Especially for kids because come for a free Halloween party. Right we’ll give your kids candy and they can dress up. We will tell them what they’re dressed up as.

K 

Yeah, like Disney. Disney gets a lot of play here. So they sell kids costumes at the at the Aeon by our house but there’s also like a huge culture of cosplay, so they sell costumes year round.

C 

Well Nagoya is the cosplay capital of the world. The World Cosplay championships are held in Nagoya every year. There’s a cosplay street festival down in Osu, which is near downtown. It’s a big deal.

K 

Yeah, so cosplay, I’m sure y’all know what cosplay is. It’s costume play. So you dresse up as your favorite manga character or movie character. And it’s a costume but you inhabit the role and their personality. So it’s kind of like what you would see at a comic con when people are acting like Chewbacca or when people are being Klingon and they will only speak and Klingon. That’s cosplay.

C 

Yes.

K 

 It varies in level: some people just dress like a Klingon and don’t know Klingon.

C 

Do you feel like that’s cultural appropriation?

K 

No I don’t, because unlike everyone else, I don’t feel that Klingon are black. And they – it’s like it’s a whole thing, and I’m not gonna

C 

Visit racial coding in Star Trek.

K 

I’m not doing that. Yeah, that’s computer says no. So in the United States, Halloween was a big deal for us, because we had a kid. And so we would do Halloween twice every year because we would do the school parade.

C 

Right.

K 

And then we would go trick or treating. And I always thought that was so weird because you had to go trick or treating on the day that Halloween fell on, regardless of whether it was during the week or not.

C 

But we were in Santa Clara. And they would announce what day it was going to be. So usually, if it was on a Sunday, they would announce it was going to be done on Saturday, or like it moved around a bit.

K 

That’s not accurate at all. No, we went trick or treating on Mondays, we went trick or treating every day of the week. Like, where are you getting this announcement from?

C 

I’m not sure.

K 

They announce it in Japan because it’s not done on Halloween day.

C 

Okay.

K 

Because no one’s expected to go out and drink. So it’s always the weekend of and they announce it.

C 

Right. The people are gonna go out and drink to oblivion anyway. So why are we messing with that?

K 

Yeah. So for me, what I think is interesting is that Japan doesn’t have – so like you have the day of the dead. You have celebrating the ancestors, and celebrating the people who have come before in almost every culture, Japan. That’s right. So Halloween does not overlap with any Japanese cultures. And I think because when appropriation happened by the….

K 

missionaries that came Japan did that for centuries.

C 

Yes, they were. Yeah, it’s a whole thing. So

K 

for me, what I find interesting, are the people that are doing and then the cultural celebration, then doing Thanksgiving. And I think that’s so odd for me, because Thanksgiving is kind of, I celebrated Thanksgiving in ignorance as a family holiday until three games that I had purchased from our son. This is your black history. This is indigenous history. And we had a lot of games that were based on African. And I found out really down on Thanksgiving, and I was like, Oh, this is not something I should be celebrating. This is a massacre. It wasn’t. They didn’t sit down together. They went in murder all of the indigenous people and then stole their food. Because they were starving. And instead of being cooperative, like the story says, like, wow, celebrate that anymore. celebrate Thanksgiving. We stopped celebrating Halloween as soon as we move to Japan. Yeah. There are stores and malls that some years do it some years don’t to know which stores in which malls, do it you would have to frequent those stores in those malls. As they put up signs that come here for Halloween.

C 

Yeah, it’s very much just a retail thing. And there are monthly things so it’s not just Halloween, that’s like, please come here for Customer Appreciation Day or, like big tickets day. There’s various things throughout the year. So I think our local mall probably has like 20 or 30 Different celebration days per year in the mall

K 

and Our grocery store has them once it has a customer appreciate it

C 

three times a month, once a week, right? Three times a month. 2030 2030 minutes, right? Yeah.

K 

See, I don’t do any groceries

C 

are triple points, customer appreciation days, we get three times the grocery store points. And you get if you use the credit card that’s owned by the Eon, the company because Eon is a big multi industry company. So it owns banks and it

K 

could be like an Albertsons or Safeway, if you’re from California,

C 

if they owned a bank.

K 

I don’t know if there’d be a Primark. If you’re in maybe they’d be a Tesco. If you’re in the UK, maybe yeah, I don’t know. What an Aldi and Aldi in the UK,

C 

maybe or maybe that’s Australia, I work with a lot of Australians.

K 

So yeah, I have to look it up because I have nighttime maybe stealing you just a large grocery chain, whatever the large grocery chain is in your city. Yeah. That’s what is this nationwide?

C 

Yeah, I think it’s like Westfield, as well, who have all the malls.

K 

But Westfield is very California. No, it’s

C 

not. There’s Westfield in Australia to I found out.

K 

Really? There’s not was Westfields across the US

C 

there weren’t when we left. I don’t know what the situation is now.

K 

So Eon is as frequent as McDonald’s would be?

C 

Yeah, I think. Yeah. One nearest we have one three blocks from us, we have one like eight blocks from us.

K 

So maybe, is as frequent as Starbucks.

C 

I think that’s fair. That’s the Starbucks, but not all of them do. And not all Starbucks or neon, but most of them are.

K 

Yeah, there’s a lot of free standing Starbucks. Starbucks has really come to Japan in a big way and been very, very successful.

C 

Well, they’ve done very much at the train station, which when I came over here, I worked for a company called Nova that went bankrupt and it’s now back around, but at the time, they’re saying do a foreign exchange at the train station, where they position their teaching centers, let’s call them that

K 

didn’t lead to customer loyalty. And a lot of there’s teachers approach clients is to set up. So Halloween in Japan, like kind of like an obligatory Halloween celebration, something I find interesting being on Twitter, that I’m finding to be upsetting. That’s I’m finding offensive as that people are posting their cultures celebration of ancestor worship or ancestor appreciation. And people not of that culture, are reposting it with phrases or saying or memes of it, or making and origin however you want to pronounce it, I don’t care. And I just really don’t like it. And by the way, I saw one about Jamaican voodoo. And it really just offended me the way that it was written about, and the way that it was talked about. And it was just so disrespectful. And having Jamaican friends that have talked to me about the respect for ancestor days isn’t done in Jamaica that is true. But to take like the most vicious photo that you can take of this. And then have that be this is what the celebration is for everyone. And like what they did for a long day of the dead in Mexico for many years. They did know hey bird, they’re digging up the dead. And that’s not the case. There are some cultures that do take up the dead and pose them and have conversations with them, redress them, and then we bury them. But I don’t judge any of those traditions. And I feel like American culture, at least what I’m seeing on Twitter is very exploitative of that like let’s take the more salacious thing. The thing that’s most of them To us, and make fun of it. And I feel like, to me, it would be really beautiful to me if I believed that there was a day of the year that people I had lost, I could commune with them. I wish I could believe that, because that would give me a lot of hope and a lot of belief and a lot of connection and with ease the pain of a loss. And I don’t know, I think it’s cool to make it a celebration and be like, Hey, I remember you a day of remembrance.

C 

And I think there’s different intensities to it. So for oboe, and a lot of people travel home, they travel to their parents or their their spouses parents home. But there are people who also are very into a Shinto aspects of it, where either they light incense and leave offerings, or in the very traditional, they use the bones of their ancestors in like, communication things. But it’s all set up to make that really convenient. So the idea of people going out to graveyards and like digging up traditional American Graves, I think is not happening as a traditional practice because it’s just too much of a pain.

K 

Yeah. Well, and American Graves, some of them are lined in cement, right? Like my grandparents, graves are lined in cement. And my grandfather’s casket is on top of my grandmother’s casket.

C 

Yeah. But I think that if you say, well, that’s totally weird. And just think about the number of people who have their parents ashes in an urn in their house. Mom’s up in the attic, like varnish, no, no, her ashes.

K 

Yeah, for the I didn’t name the countries that do the unburying the RE unburying and rebuilding of the dead because I don’t want that country or culture picked on right are picked up there. It’s not done in Japan. So for me, I feel like Halloween, my favorite thing that I saw going around for Halloween is there was a meme going around. That said, it’s interesting how we’re taught to fear wit, that we are taught to fear witches, but not the men who burned them. And I was like, Snapple, thank you are you tweeted that because I guess, suddenly be more afraid of the people who are like burning and drowning people. And so for me, Halloween was never a happy holiday for me. Because I know way too much of at that. At that point in time, I had way too much of American culture. And what and I also had a lot of friends who are working at the time, and they really educated me on American culture and Halloween, and how much how much of it was cultural appropriation done by the Catholic Church to make it okay to have this holiday because they couldn’t eradicate it. Right.

C 

So the Romans had done before with just changing their deities for the local celebration, whatever it was, so

K 

there’s a long history in religion, but I feel

C 

like some of our neighbors in California were trick or treating or getting scared. This is going to be terrifying.

K 

Yes,

C 

like, this is not a costume thing. There was one house that we just avoided after the first year that we went to it. Because the first year we went to it, this lady answered the door not dressed up in a costume or anything.

K 

Oh, yeah. We’ve told this story before

C 

and told Rasta you have to sing for candy. In a French accent. I’m not going to imitate the French accent. And we’re like, no, no, we’re just gonna leave. No, you must Sing Sing for candy little boy

K 

sing for crappy candy. Right? It wasn’t even like a full candy bar. Or mini sized candy bar. It was just seeing for candy. Yes. For bad candy that’s been that I’ve had for 10 years.

C 

Okay. No, thank you. I’m not gonna recreate my childhood.

K 

And I’ve never been to a haunted house. And I’ve never been to a corn maze. And I’ve never been to I don’t like jumpscares so avoid places that are jumpscares and I don’t see like the jumpscare That startled me and make me scream because I have a low threshold for starting out really? The rest of it wasn’t scary because I know that they can’t do anything to me. Like some One chasing me with the chainsaw that didn’t have any teeth on it, and just made the noise of the chainsaw. But I would find that loud and annoying. I would not find that scary. I think I would ruin the experience for everyone. So I’ve jumped and scream at anything. But I think you have to go into a haunted house with the desire to be afraid,

C 

I think so.

K 

desire to be scared. I’ve never seen a haunted house in Japan. Do they do those?

C 

I think they that there are a few companies that might do it as a specialty thing. Like if the if they get sponsored by a big company or something, but it’s not usual.

K 

I’ve never heard of one. Yeah.

C 

Costume events are very usual. But yeah, I think the only haunted house thing I knew know of was when roster was going to that. Show that restaurant that’s

K 

not a haunted house. That’s a restaurant with a show. Right? The prison restaurant, right? That’s why. And so Okay, so they’re themed restaurants. And one of them was the, the theme was prison. And so you would go in and get locked into your table. And then there would be a prison show. And then there was also a zombie one, right? And you would go and they put on like a little play. So it’s like dinner theater.

C 

Yeah. So that’s why I don’t want to say this. But I don’t think I can’t think of any.

K 

But the rest are themed restaurants, right? Make cafes and such. Yes. So I don’t think there’s like American traditional haunted house, like I know, people who have made their houses into haunted houses. And to me that was so strange. Like, Why are you inviting these people to come into your house?

C 

I think they’re really labor intensive, compared to what’s usual in Japan, like here and my neighbor tutorial house. Yeah, but

K 

that’s way off. Yeah, it’s

C 

way off. But I think that there are a lot of different kind of theme things in shopping districts. Like we have Cosmo in the US, which has has a Wizard of Oz theme. I think it’s really usual here in Japan to have themes.

K 

Yeah, dark themed things. And sometimes, though, all year, though, that aren’t right. Yeah.

C 

I think that’s the thing is that temporary, temporary pop up businesses are not as popular in Japan.

K 

Because there isn’t like the pop up Christmas store. They think of like Hickory Farms, how right, they would do the pop up store. And I think they I’m not sure if they still do. I know like 30 years ago,

C 

so the grocery store has pop up stores all of the time. But these are things that repeat. So they’ll be like, regional dishes from Hokkaido one week there’ll be France bed with a display of all their beds for

K 

there’s no announcement that the pop of nose come there’s not assessed you go to the store you see this there special item

C 

that you could buy elsewhere. So yes, like a satellite, like be attracted to our main store but maybe buy something while you’re here.

K 

Yeah. And there’s a pop ups. Yeah. So that’s just good taste, said the jerky pop ups. I like squid jerky. And I think it’s really fun. Because they’re I like the smell of roasted jerky of roasted squid. So they take the squid and they slow roast it right down into smaller samples or small like roasted suede. And then they shave it right there. And so you can go and like get freshly shaved, which

C 

is very much like getting ketose in California.

K 

Like getting it like you’re doing a sweet and savory

C 

sweet funerals

K 

like that. What do you talk about? Can they shave the goat meat off?

C 

Exactly. Yeah.

K 

After big Honka thing. Yeah. That they have continued throughout the day. Okay. Yes.

C 

Okay, yeah.

K 

I don’t know what that white sauces they put on it. I’m not opposed to eating goat meat.

C 

It’s like dill and sour cream. I had it all the time on when you and I first met.

K 

Yeah. And I told you never status you’ve never been able to satisfy. What is the white sauce right. What is the white sauce?

C 

It’s just a dill cream sauce.

K 

Yeah, that’s very vague.

C 

Fill in yogurt, yogurt based sauce. And I think that’s why Yeah.

K 

I don’t know I don’t like yogurt. You are a yogurt?

C 

I am. I just feel like it’s so important for the culture. The yogurt culture.

K 

Okay. Yeah. That’s not funny today. You’re laughing for chat.

C 

They are.

K 

Funny every chat. laughs I have no sense of humor today. My sense of humor has died and gone away. I’ve I’ve no idea why I have no sense of humor. But today, I just don’t think I’m super tired. I think that’s probably it. And I’m hungry. That’s a tough one. The Doctor Doctor pre dated for doctors just really not a good day for me. And I’m just like, obsessively checking. And being like, what is the doctor gonna say to me, but I want to end on a happy note. For the past month, we have been for podcasts, and all of our tuning in every week and making that possible for us eating out big hitters, in in terms of podcasts, and Japan that have been well, around much longer than we have. So we have a deep appreciation for everyone who’s tuning in every week. And everyone who gives us their time and attention and listens to people listen, we’re not sure if like people are going to play our FM, or if people I guess we could find out. We have like ways of finding out I guess until we

C 

have ways of finding out what pod catchers people are using. And if people are coming to the site.

K 

Do you look at stuff. Because we are so bad.

C 

Very bad. And in my day job. There are other people who are paid to handle the marketing stuff. So like nothing in my life, but

K 

your day job does not handle her podcast. No, no, no,

C 

it doesn’t. I’m saying I’m so used to other people handling it, that it doesn’t even occur to me. I’m like, oh, yeah, maybe we should mention maybe I see I try to immediately devolve responsibility to week.

K 

Yeah, you don’t even retweet stuff about your book. No, I do all of the retweeting of your book, what you’ve,

C 

you’ve told me something about that. I’m trying to be better. When I see things about my book, every tweet, at least 10% of the time that

K 

I’m talking to myself, I will write a tweet about your book. And then I will respond to the tweet about your book. As if I’m like, Whoa, where did this come from? Knowing I just tweeted it.

C 

corporations are people to

K 

know. Now. So I talk to myself a lot on Twitter when the two accounts are talking to them. And they’re using Japan as talking to set up our math pub. It’s usually me talking to myself, because I know what I can do as a marketer because nothing to market his book,

C 

except for write it. I feel like that was an important part.

K 

That’s not marketing your book.

C 

You have a point. I don’t like that you have a point but you have a point.

K 

So you want to thank all of you for keeping us in the top 10 on player FM. And we really appreciate that y’all value the transcript. And hi, I know your value. The transcript is one week the transcript was late and our listenership, though, by 60%. So we know that the transcripts matter to you and that really is reinforcing for us. Because the transcripts are expensive to do they’re a third of the cost. I was six I think they’re more than the website. Yes, they are. And so we have enough patrons now that we are paying for the that the patronage is paying for the transcripts. However, we don’t have enough money to pay for the website. And we don’t have enough money yet to buy new microphones. So if you’d like our sound quality to improve, please become a patron. There’s over 100 things on the tape to use for y’all to listen to, and enjoy and soak up. But don’t feel pressured not to like you Have to we appreciate that you give us your time and attention every week. And that means a lot to us. So we also just launched our cinnabar. Moth collections. So we I just launched the cinnabar. Moth collections website, Chad helped lots I feel like this, he, please go check out cinnabar moth collections, there’s a great easing on it. And there’s reviews. And there’s the second podcast, the writers triangle. And there are awards. And there’s an author and residents and bios of authors. There’s all kinds of really cool and fun stuff. And today,

C 

that’s cinnabar moth literary collections.com. Yeah.

K 

And today, our take t is going to be talking about the launching of the E zine and the website and everything that went into that. And I think it’s going to be very educational for anybody who wants to launch a website, how to do it, and how to do it on a budget and how to do it in a way that looks polished and professional. And I think if you go check out the website looks polished and professional. That’s what I think that’s my opinion. And I’m sticking

C 

to it your instinct, cuz I think you’re right. Yeah.

K 

So thank you so much for tuning in this week and listening to us talk about Halloween. Yeah, again. I think this year the reason we talked about Halloween is because it was such a non event in Japan and it was here in Nagoya. Yeah, here and my boy was it. I don’t know for us the tram. So if it was a big thing in the rest of Japan and you live in a part of Japan, it was a big thing. Hit us up on Twitter last night because I obviously do not listen to the news NHK I do not have a television.

C 

Okay.

K 

He talks about cable so I don’t watch a lot of news. I am like on a news fast right now. Because these bums me out about the news is depressing. So I don’t want to be depressed. So follows on and we hope that he follows on over to the states. So we talked about the monster of the easy. Bye, bye. Thank you for listening. You can keep the conversation going on our website at the music’s in japan.com That’s the music spelled Emil sick s. Be sure to follow us on Twitter and Facebook. Were at the music’s on both.

C 

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K 

Bye