K 

So lately I’ve been thinking about as in exactly today that it is a one year anniversary of opening Cinnabar. Moth Publishing.

C 

Officially Yes.

K 

Like officially we got our renewal for the incorporation papers. Well, it was an automatic renewal. There was still that and it was like, Wow, it’s been a year.

C 

It has been a year. Yes. The automatic renewal was, Oh, those are both my lawyers. They got paid days ago from Adobe that we use for InDesign and Photoshop and all that. So yes. Oh, that was a website bill.

K 

So yeah, it was it’s a big bill day. renewal Day is a big bill day. And it’s on the calendar because we have our budget. So it’s in our budget. And I look at the budget calendar every day, like every single day to make sure we’re staying on budget. So I look at the budget I like, because I have this fear of accountants, which is just a random segue. And this is so bizarre and so lame. But at a very informative age, there was a TV show called moonlighting and it freaked me out and terrified me. It made me afraid of accountants.

C 

Maybe Michelle will share

K 

my in the show with what was share on it was sir,

C 

share. The singer.

K 

What are you talking? Are you talking about civil Shepherd?

C 

Maybe this was in civil shepherd.

K 

So moonlight was a movie with Cher in it. Okay. Yes, new lighting was the TV show with civil shopper, and Bruce Willis. Okay. So the premise was simple. Shepard was a model, whose accountant had stole had stolen all of her money. And the only thing the accountant didn’t steal was this defunct detective agency. And so she had been paying this price. I don’t know why she owned a detective agency. But why as one does that Kim Basinger owns her hometown. And I don’t know how one buys a town. But I know it got for auction. Yeah, they do. That’s weird to me. Yeah. Because only a town is expensive. Yes. And like buying your hometown. I feel like I’m especially like, if you came from someplace that created you really bad? Like, why would you do them a favor of saving the town.

C 

But then you evict everyone. You know he talking to you. I own this town. Literally,

K 

but like the whole town was mad when she bought it. So anyways, that back to the thing that makes me really afraid of accountants. And Japanese accountants are different than American accountants. And you know, I’m going to turn it over to Chad, because Chad likes to describe laws and rules, I think in in my universe. Okay. Because you’ve dealt with American accountants because we have no Corporation in the United States. And we own a corporation here in Japan. Yeah. So

C 

as anybody who has looked at the name for more than a moment can tell it’s an LLC, because that’s what the LLC at the end of it means. But what does LLC stand for? LLC stands for limited liability corporation.

K 

So our LLC is the same in the US as they are in Japan.

C 

Japan does not have the equivalent of an LLC.

K 

Correct. So we are not like in our contracts are executed in Japan. Yes. So the reason that we have LLC, is for people who do business with us in the United States, so that they understand the boundaries without you’re better at explaining it. Right. I sell me when I explain it. Like I sound aggressive. When I explain this. I don’t want to explain it.

C 

Okay, so our deals are through the LLC. Yes. So anybody who has a deal with us on this doesn’t just mean authors. This is also like our printer. Our advertising people our websites. jovita.

K 

Yes,

C 

everybody, anybody who bills us.

K 

What a lot of people bill us, right? Oh, and they do.

C 

Billing the LLC. So that LLC is owned by a limited company here, which is not exactly the same as an LLC. And it mostly comes down to taxes. So if we just had the LLC here, then the US doesn’t recognize that as a pass through tax entity. Yeah. It’s a pass through tax entity means that when the LLC makes money, that money isn’t charged. To the LLC for for profit, the any profit, if there is some, any losses if there is some are distributed to the members according to the membership agreement. Yes. Which means that for taxation purposes, we’re not

K 

going to deep end the membership agreement because we don’t talk about people’s pockets. Yes. And then my making sure Chad will talk about people’s pockets. That’s why interrupted. We’ll talk about people’s pockets and start talking about who owns what. And we don’t have there’s no word that you can go to find out who owns Cinnabar. Moth?

C 

No, there’s not. And that’s one of the reasons that we chose New Mexico for incorporation is because some states, you have to file who owns and how much they own. And other states you don’t. And I found it interesting when we’re setting it up. A lot of states are advertising, no income tax, no income tax for your LLC, which No, there’s not because the pass through entity, which means the income tax, no matter where you are, no matter what your LLC is, goes to, wherever you’re at. Yeah, and a lot of people got messed up behind this bout thing by thinking they could incorporate in Mexico, which has good privacy. Yeah, or Delaware, which has favorable taxation, and then do business in another state. Yeah, and the other state will be like, okay, but you’re not incorporated here. So you personally have to pay all the bills, and people are like, wait a minute. Yeah. But lawyers are very clear that like, you’re not doing business, like you’re not in California, wanted to do in New Mexico, like, No, you don’t have a home like, nope, we’re here in Japan.

K 

But if we were in just New Mexico, we couldn’t buy books from people in the UK. Right? Which is so weird to me. Like I don’t, and a lot of so if you’re an American only publisher, and that’s where you’re located. That’s where you’re from, that’s where you’re Incorporated. You cannot buy books from people in Canada, like you can. And I was surprised. I was surprised by this email about this. And some of my other partners knew about it. I did not know about it, until our first UK author, and they were like it. I feel like I should disclose to you. I’m in the UK. Is that going to be a problem? And then like, so me. I didn’t know any better. But I’m in Japan. Is that cool? Our headquarters are in Japan, like is that cool with you? And they were like, Yeah, no, just like been told by American companies that they can’t buy books from people in the UK. And also a lot of American only presses if they only have distribution. Yes, they can distribute globally. And we have even though we’re a microprocessor, we have distribution everywhere. But y’all know, except Antarctica. And

C 

well, and this is a matter of licensing. So we licensed for World English rights. Yes. Which means that we can sell it anywhere in the world in English. Yeah. And we also license for the right to license for language rights,

K 

which will give back if you if you are a native speaker of a different language, and you ask for your rights back or give them back.

C 

Yeah, in advance of the contract, like after we would too. But it’s just easier if you say in advance, hey, I think I want to do translation into my native tongue. Yeah.

K 

And so we’ve had a couple of authors that have done that. And then they’re like, Wait, can I give them back to you? And I’m like, No, you can’t. But if it becomes a best seller in English, then we will translate it to other languages.

C 

Yep. Because all it does is is that we don’t have the light the right to license on the author’s behalf. And so if they decide later, that Oh, hey, I’d like to license on my behalf. Yeah, then we can do that. Yeah. It just takes up complication if they decide they want to do their own stuff.

K 

Yeah. But you never said the difference between accountants in the US and accountants in Japan. So what happened in the moon body she was she had given her accountant, her power of attorney. And that was that they can sign for you on your accounts. We don’t have that I have to cough. Sorry about that. So we don’t have power of attorney.

C 

No, we haven’t given anybody power of attorney and accountants here generally won’t take it. You can appoint a business manager, Mike. Yeah. You know, I operate under an a power of attorney for Mike A job because I’m not technically an employee of the company, because they’re located in a different country, it’s a whole thing that you can work it all out. But no accountants here have the same basic split into non public accountants and public accountants. We aren’t a public Corporation. So we don’t have to use a CPA. But we generally do because they generally are not any more expensive. It’s just that added thing of the government trust it. Yeah. And so the government here, they’re licensed accountants who are not CPAs. But you have to have a license to be an accountant. Yes. And if they do, then they file taxes and things on our behalf. So they can’t spend our money, but they can tell the government of the different countries how much money we have made, and how much money we have spent on the different things. And then the taxation is basically, we got tax here as individuals, because the US part is an LLC. And we get taxed on the amount that comes out of the business. And so like, it’s actually harder to deal with the American taxes than what the Japanese taxes.

K 

Yeah, it is. America makes everything hard for its for its citizens living abroad.

C 

Yeah, so we do have to know whether people are living in the us when we sign them. Or, or American, even if they’re not living in the US, because we have to send out 1090 nines at the end of the year.

K 

Yes, we have to know if they’re living in the US. We also have to know if they’re on disability because we structure those contracts differently. And we also have to know, Okay, wait, so whatever country they’re living in, if they’re on benefits, if like, there’s different structures?

C 

Well, I want to say something about we don’t have to know. We don’t have to, we could just pay people. But we have been contacted by some authors in advance who said, Wait, if you pay me this much, all at once, if you pain in the advanced all at once, you’re going to put me over the asset limit that I have to stay underneath, or you’re going to put me over my income limit. Even though if you spread it out over time, I wouldn’t because I don’t make any other money.

K 

Is that going to get anybody looked up? No, it’s not because

C 

we, we specifically, it’s totally fine to do this. Like there’s nothing unethical or illegal or anything about spreading out things. Yeah. Because it’s an advance against royalties. And so we can pay the advance in several parts must big publishers pay it in between three and five parts? were unusual for paying it all at once.

K 

Yeah, we were doing it in two parts. And I was like, this is a pain in the rough, I got the feedback, because I wasn’t the one doing it. I got the feedback, but it was a pain in the rump. And then we had some. So we’ve had some growing pains we’ve had, we’ve had others try to understand a bit of that, because this is the music’s in Japan, it’s not the virus triangle, I try to realize that some authors try to focus over, like several authors try to focus over once they sign a contract. And I feel like y’all don’t know me though. Not nice, like nice, like, so they take like, who I am and Cinnabar Moth was like really supportive and really nice and everything, and they don’t bother and they say that the fall of both our accounts like the music’s in Japan, and some of our my publishing, and then the act of full with, they’ll come at me sideways, and the Senate, my mom, and I feel like but y’all don’t know me and don’t like dog whistle at me. You don’t want to be seen as an angry black woman. I’m like the fuck I don’t. I am an angry black woman. And yes, my neck is working and everything. I don’t care what you’re trying to call me, a controlling woman, if we’re trying to call me a bitch, if we’re trying to call me an angry black woman. If you’re saying well, you know, let’s appeal to your white side.

C 

And sometimes let’s appeal to your husband.

K 

Yes, and I’m like, go ahead and appeal to a full author. Because shag has nothing to do will charge an author shots under contract like everybody else. Chad has the same like, everything, everything is the same. And if you want to know what a deal is, then, you know check out our website and we say what our deals are. And I just feel like don’t sign a contract and then Thank you How many jammed up because you don’t. If you turn in something, just something sideways just sideways as hell and then you don’t Want to listen to your editor, whether that editor be me, or official editor that does line edits, and you just don’t want to hear, or you go back on a verbal agreement that we had, or you can’t talk about thought, I just won’t get on the phone. But if we write out and I write to every actor, like, what I want to change about their book, usually is word count. And then they write back. Sure, everybody’s like, Sure, it’s so nice and kind before they sign the contract. no, my sign the contract, they sent me just a mess. And I’m like, this is not a mess, like, I will take some books that are a mess and straighten them out. But it has to be the mess I agreed to clean up. You can’t send me a mess. That is not the mess, I agreed to clean up. And you can’t clean up. So like, some people like to do the bait and switch. They’ll take every single entity. No, I gave them both for they sign. And then once they signed, they’ll send me the original. And I’ll be like, Can you send me the one with the with the changes made new, like what changes? Now I’m like, see, this is where the therapist, my history as a therapist comes in, I will keep an email chain on you. And I will send you back what I wrote you, because clients would like to bait and switch on me all the time. You said there’s some therapy and I was like my therapy notes. Because in the United States, you can get sued. Clients can sue you for negative outcomes in the United States. And if you do not have your notes from that session, date, time, what went down, all email chains, you can get sued, and you can lose your license over some stuff that they say. And so I will let clients know that I don’t take notes during sessions. But I do take notes after sessions. And if you want to see the notes that I’ve taken for our sessions, you can have them subpoenaed, because my notes are private, and just for me, because I do write things that clients don’t want to hear about themselves. So it’s real talk. So I take the same approach to publishing. And that is there is an email chain. Like you see that this email exchange, there are 52 emails in this email exchange one, that’s way too many emails. And that’s a big red flag. But I will go back to the email when you submitted and tell you and cut and paste what I told you, I wanted you to change.

C 

Also, and this is part of why we change the advanced structure that we used. So So a typical big publisher advanced structure is you get part of the money when you sign, yet part of the money when you provide an acceptable copy of the book, you get part of the money when the hardcover is published, you get part of the money when the softcover is published, and then some you get part of the money when you hit a particular sales. Yes, for after a certain amount of time. Yeah, so we said, okay, what are the issues with this? One is we gave a couple of people money when they signed them, then thankfully, they provided us an acceptable manuscript, but if they hadn’t, they would have owed us that money back. Yes. And we don’t want to put any author in the position of owing us money back because they couldn’t work or didn’t want to modify their book to be acceptable. Yeah. And so yes, we have a contract that we signed with people. But until we actually pay out money, it’s tricky to enforce it that for either side. Yes, it gets in nobody’s best interest to try and make us publish a book that we don’t want to publish. Because that I won’t write. And it’s not in our best interest to try and drag a book out of an author who has decided that they don’t want to publish with us or don’t want to publish a book.

K 

Okay, there are. So some publishers will take a book that they don’t like, and just rewrite it. I’m not doing that to an author, you’re like, all excited, your book is coming out. And then your book comes out. And you’re like, this is not what I wrote. That’s just dirty.

C 

And there have been people with the big publishers. And I mentioned these because I think some authors assume that the big publishers, like, do everything, right. And that, oh, if there’s hinky stuff going on, as they have been authors published author does, who had trouble getting their book except that even though they turn out a good manuscript, because the publisher didn’t want to pay right then yeah, and there have been authors whose book publication has been cancelled, who are like okay, but I still you still owe me the rest of the advance publishers like when we publish. And so we use a contract called the model contract from the Authors Guild which gives assurances to the author that they’re not going to owe us money and that once they get Give us the book, they get paid whether or not we publish the book. We don’t end up publishing. That’s our issue.

K 

No, no, no. The current contracts. This is where this is why you don’t go to things and give me things. And then either me or someone else in the company won’t be like, no. And I will have to check with other people in the company. Because Chad will have said things and I’ll be like, to any of you, does anyone in the team know anything about this? And they’re like, no. So I’ve told everybody, if you’re dealing with Cinnabar Moth policy, you are not dealing with Chad. It is not called for Chad. Everybody that is not well kissed for is doing it. So it must be Chad’s money. And I’m like one get out my pocket. You don’t know me. You don’t know him like that. Y’all know us? Like, I feel like the the music notes No, as my flight the music notes will know to come correct at me.

C 

Yeah, they would. Because I have a day job. Yeah. And is not my side job.

K 

No, it is not. As much as I would love it to be. It is not my side job is author. Yes. And Tom has made it very clear to me. When I asked for work, that he is not my employee, which I don’t appreciate. So try my hand long conversation about child’s pronouns, and he just wants him even though he’s non binary. So I’m like, crack on, you have the right to that. to just let everybody know, in the past, I’ve been like, I’m trying to stop calling you and he can’t, right? why that would be weird for me. Because Chad does not want to be a day then.

C 

I wouldn’t mind. So if people want to call me Dave them. I don’t mind.

K 

But you don’t want to be just Chad. Because you don’t like your name. I do not know and never have. And so if I only use Chad, who named too often, yes. And Pat names are okay. But they’re, they don’t take the place of pronouns. They do not. If it’s really weird. My to be like, instead of saying Chad to use one of our pet names would be weird. For me, that would be weird. talking to someone else calling you. Yeah. Although I did do it to our son sometimes. But I have like, different. Yeah, it’s the whole nevermind, that’s like a weird. So going back to the contract, how the our current contract works. And we have, like, I feel like every three months our contract changes. And I feel like our contracts are gonna be like rings in a tree? No, I think so then an event and then in business. So the current contract is that you have a, you have a pre date. So you signed your contract. And then you have a date by which I want the first three chapters, or the first six chapters, or the first 10 chapters, depending on which iteration of the contract you’re on. And it’s just how bad Have I been screwed over by authors do a bait and switch. And the agreement is that the book has to be in line with those chapters. And then 10 months before the date of publication of your book, the full manuscript is due. And that’s when you get your full advance, right? Once the full manuscript is do

C 

once an acceptable copy of it, and acceptable has specific meanings, but it means that you can’t bait and switch on the content on the

K 

manuscript means that within what we’ve discussed, and most often, most of our authors are just like beautiful, amazing, wonderful authors. But having an we’re really lucky because in the past year, I’ve only had five really negative experiences. And I own and people think that I get furious because I go off on Twitter, and I use expletives. But y’all know the f4 is my favorite word. And so people are reading what I tweet and they’re like, you hate me this other. And I feel like I don’t feel one way or the other about you. I don’t like you. I don’t hate you. You’re nothing to me. Yeah. Like, don’t go away, man. Just go away.

C 

Well, I think to that if you’re dealing with somebody, and there are issues in a business part, those don’t necessarily carry over to the personal part.

K 

But people make it personal. Yeah, but they don’t have to. Yeah, that’s entitlement. If you’re making a personal it’s because you feel entitled and I feel like you are entitled to do what you agreed Real talk. Yeah, you’re entitled to do it. You agree. And I would be exactly the same in the United States. And everybody thinks, oh, what if you were in the US? I could see you. You could sue me and get your book back. And I’m trying to give it back to you right now.

C 

Yeah. I mean, assuming that’s the issue is that the remedy is that you can cancel the contract. And if we haven’t getting any money, then it’s kind of a no harm, no foul. Like, it’s not what we want. We signed contracts with all those because we want to publish their book. Yes. But if we can’t come to an agreement, then everybody can walk away without anybody owing anybody else money. Which is different than the contracts where you get money on you sign because there have been authors who have had to give back that money. Less their agent, not anymore. No, no, no, there’s an opposition less their agents 15% Commission, because they couldn’t turn in an acceptable book. The biggest book deal I heard about was one author. I heard speaking, who had to give back a million dollar advance. Yeah, because she wasn’t willing to make the changes the publishing house was demanding. And she said it hurt that her agent got to keep $150,000.

K 

We’ll talk that would hurt that she had to come up with that out of her pocket. Yeah. Cuz advances gets bad. Yeah, advances gets bad. So we do a lot of good things for our authors. And a lot of people want to be a part of that. And we let all of our authors be like, we started a Discord. And we’re launching and easing because now that the process is up and running, it’s running pretty smooth now with a couple of hiccups with just, you know, just those five nasty authors. And I find it interesting that all five of the nasty authors either have racism in their history, or bigotry in the history or entitlement in their history, where they had beefs with other people. Yeah. And my four issues, my and it was, it’s ironic to me, when somebody who goes often drags someone for the exact same behavior that they’re exhibiting, that trips me out, like, you’re gonna go off about, you know, an author not wanting to take your edits, but then you’re not gonna take your edits. Yeah, make it make sense. And then there was someone who was using a racial slur. And I made them aware that they were using racial slur. And they were like, but I like it.

C 

Yeah, that’s not a good idea

K 

in other aspects of the life. And I was like, Well, I don’t. Yeah. So

C 

I think at the end of the day, we want to do business with people that we like, we don’t have like, actually like them, like, oh, my goodness, let’s go and hang out.

K 

There’s no way in this. You like to have people you’d like us to find authors that you’ll get along with. So that when you’re on the discord, you’re having fun. Well,

C 

yeah, so is that too, but I think that there’s a separation.

K 

I have you want me to sign authors that don’t put me in a bad mood?

C 

Yes. And I think spoil Yeah, exactly. And I think some authors who are very nice people aren’t used to the business mode, like, well, but can’t we just why do we have to, you know, do a contract, why does everything say that? You know, it’s Cinnabar Moth Publishing LLC. Like, okay, but the rules under which we operate, say that? If I say, Oh, I Chad music, I’m signing this on behalf of myself, then it can ruin the LLC thing. Yeah. So we have to be cognizant of that. And it doesn’t, like terrible things can happen. Can I tell a terrible story? When we had another LLC in the US, yeah. One of the people who was doing work on a building that was owned by the LLC lost his arm. Yeah. And our insurance paid out and made a settlement and feel truly bad for him. And I, but it was never personal on either side. Like he lost his arm, through negligence through the company that hired him that we had hired. And our lawyers were like, do you want to fight for a lower settlement or like no

K 

Now do right by the person. Yeah. So I try to do right by people we try to do right by our people, right? We try to do right by the people who sign with us. And we try to do right by the people that we do cooperations with. But I find that there’s a lot of wolves in sheep’s clothing. But it doesn’t make me not want to collaborate. Like we had one collaboration that went off, amazing. still rocking out still going amazing today, we had another collaboration where they had offered us something and then took it away. And they were just like, whoops. And so I was like, that’s cool. It was an exchange, and now you’re not getting your part of the exchange, either, right. And then we had another instance where I was going to collaborate. And here’s something I didn’t tell you about, I was gonna collaborate with I was gonna do a collaboration with another press. And one of the owners of the press, privately messaged me and said, one of our members is problematic. And our press is going under. Please don’t please don’t invest any time or anything into us. Because we’re going to let the press fold so we can make it something near trying to get rid of this problematic. member. Yeah. And I will say that solid. Yes. Nice. And there’s also watchdog groups that I’m so happy now that follow us because we have a No, I won’t print bigotry. So like, for me insane. I won’t print bigotry. I mean, I will not print bigoted work from a biggest point of view. So like if you’ve been oppressed, so I have been called slurs. And if I want to tell them my story about how being called a slur impacts me, then that’s valid. But I did not want to hear the person who was bigoted writing from a biggest point of view, I am not going to amplify the voices of bigots. Yep. And there’s a watchdog group that I was I had tweeted something from another publisher. And the person said, This publishers on a list for having supported the work of white supremacists. And I was like, Oh, thank you very much. And so I feel like in the past year, we’ve grown to the size now where people know who we are, and they know what we’re about. They know that we’re a majority owned, black, queer, disabled press. All of our owners are just able three fifths of our owners are black and prefer serve our owners are queer. Not all and that’s not the same. Yeah, it’s not Yeah. So now all of our blog owners are queer. I just want to say that just in case someone ever finds the list somehow. And they have nothing against queerness Yes, I’m working with queer people. And I’m one of the owners and I’m black, disabled and queer. So that’s like soccer blue.

C 

Wait, did you just say soccer or blue?

K 

I did not say soccer. I believe I said soccer probably.

C 

Yeah, you’re putting you’re pronouncing soccer is as three syllables. You are saying Saqqara blue

K 

suck probably. correctly, then.

C 

Sackler D.

K 

Did you say suck your boobs?

C 

No, did you? Just say I said Sacra blue.

K 

Okay, so this is me not being able to hear the word. Yeah. This is not me being in Japan. Okay. So in here, I’m really happy that it’s the one year anniversary, and I’m really proud of everything that we’ve accomplished in the past year. And my super, super happy with where the price is at. And I’m super, super excited about launching the easing. And I’m super, super excited that we were able to launch two awards within our first year of being oppressed. That’s amazing. Yeah, a lot to accomplish. Yes, it is. Because we have a poetry prize. We have a poem we have for as damning poetry. Now the poetry award and we have a short story prize. And there are two awards and they have medallions and everything and they come with goodies and stuff. And we launched a podcast. A lot of stuff.

C 

Yeah. And the interesting thing with these, I think, is that, yes, we want the business to make money for the owners. Like

K 

well We have a major milestone and that I’m not gonna say who, but our first author or not their advance. Very nice. Yeah, we haven’t opted that turned out their events. That’s an exciting milestone for the press. Yeah, it is. So I’m super excited. I want every author to earn out their advanced cuz that means we’re selling books baby. Yeah, selling books. And then like not my ruckus isn’t over, I think over 25 libraries at this point. Yeah, it’s been quite a few. And for more than that over 25 libraries and the US, I don’t know, globally, I do know that because we have to wait till the end of the year ever count. But I do know that it’s in a library on every on every continent except Antarctica. But it might be in the article library. And I just don’t know,

C 

when something else that we started doing that we can do, because we have the thing is we’ve started getting the Library of Congress control members to submit the books, the Library of Congress, I think that we’ve done a lot of things and having the kind of structure of you have to do these things, as part of the business has sometimes been annoying. Yeah. One of the things that New Mexico doesn’t require that when we have a California LLC, is we had to meet quarterly and discuss business and take notes.

K 

Yes.

C 

And it was, it was more than just that. So like eight people. And but yeah, it was kind of like

K 

eight people that were dispersed everywhere that I have to drive up to sample. Sacramento. Yes. Which is in the northern part of the state. And if you live in the South Bay, that’s it’s a track. Yeah.

C 

But New Mexico doesn’t. So we just have to kind of like, let them know how much money we made in New Mexico. Yeah. And that’s not a problem.

K 

Yeah. So the reason that we have my, why do we have a new mexico and Japan office? Why do we have? What are the benefits of having?

C 

Okay, so the immediate benefit is that if you do not have a presence, either personal or corporate in the UK, Canada or the US, Amazon will not let you publish books on Audible. So you can’t publish audio books on Audible.

K 

Amazon being shady.

C 

Right? Like if you’re an Indian author in India, and you record your book, they won’t let you put the audio book up there.

K 

That’s super, that’s completely burnt. I feel like that’s racist in classes as well.

C 

It absolutely is. And then the other aspect of it is that the companies that we deal with only want to pay to US bank accounts. Yeah. Now or Where are you? Okay, like, there are a few things. But Japan uses the swift system and does not use the IBM System

K 

is a huge pain in the rump. Yeah, so gamesters of Japan, if you are listening to us, please change this, you are pressing all of your businesses. So if

C 

we want to wire wire money to somebody in the US, it costs us $0. From our US Bank, yeah. If we wanted to wire money to somebody in the us from our Japanese bank to pay an author or something, oh, my God is $95 per wire.

K 

Yes. And it’s a huge, huge hassle it is, you have to go down and there’s like, all kinds of

C 

you have to go down, you have to certify why you’re sending the money. It’s like a whole thing approved by the government.

K 

And then when you’re doing your taxes, you have to declare and certify all of your transfers, you have to justify every transfer that was made. And so like transfer between corporate entities is not the same as because right transfer like it did. It’s very suspicious, because

C 

it’s less than as transfer of own savings, because it’s the same owner on both sides. But if we wanted to send money to somebody else, it would basically just make it to where we could only pay people by credit card.

K 

And in Japan, they’re like, your money laundering, right? 50 cents. They’re like, why are you money laundering? What are you doing?

C 

Japan is funny about money, though? Because, you know, I have my day job. Yeah. And according to the Japanese tax Bureau, I’m unemployed. And I think I’ve said this before. They’re like, Why are companies just sending you money for no reason? I work there. No, you don’t. They’re just sending you money for no reason.

K 

Right now I’m working. Yeah, but you’re not giving them a tangible product. And like yes, I am giving them tangible products like what did you make meetings.

C 

And then I tell them, I made things from my education at Nagoya University. And they’re like, Oh, this is based on your education from the university. Yes. Okay, that’s acceptable, then

K 

we totally understand except that

C 

it was a very bizarre conversation the first 10 times I had no, I’m used to it.

K 

So we still have it. And we still have nightmares still ongoing. So I think owning a business in the United States. So we currently own a business in the US and in a business owner business in Japan, that we have a business in our headquarters in Japan, and we have a subsidiary office are established office rather. So it is called a satellite office in New Mexico. Yes. And everybody wants to want a negative one of the five negative was someone was very interested in suing us in New Mexico. And as like, we, before we had a contract, yeah, we don’t have a contract with you. I’m like, Yes, I’d like to see you in New Mexico. And I was like, Well, I would like to not sign a contract with you. So that we don’t even have to have this conversation anymore. So I’m, like, I do nice projections, like if the book isn’t right, but if you try me if you try my beauty, like, I just get tired. Yeah, like a 35 long email chain. I’m not being nice at the end of that email chain. I’m being professional, but I’m not being nice. And like, people start, like D railing conversations. I’m bringing race into it, bringing gender into it. And it’s just like, really, it’s like they’re trying to get me to say something ugly, so that they can post it on the internet. And I am one, I love a good Tweet, tweet chain. I love a good thread. Y’all know me, if you follow us on the music, I will put a thread out in a heartbeat. I don’t care. I don’t care. Nice is not my brand. It is not nice. It’s not my brand, you will get what? You will get exactly what you see. I’m completely transparent. And if I think you’re a racist, I’m going to tell you I think you’re a racist. If I think you’re a massage, and so I’m going to tell you I think your massages, I am not shy. So I encourage everyone please follow about the counting get to know the real me. Please listen to the music’s in Japan and get to know the real me when I’m of course as Cinnabar Moth on a different continent, and different timbre. But that’s because that’s professionalism. Yeah. It’s not like like, Oh, you were so nice on the internet. Now, I was honest. I don’t say I’d like a story that I don’t like. And like people tweet out, I just got the nicest rejection from Cinnabar. Moth. That’s nice to know. But now like, our work closed until 2024. So anything I’m reading is kind and generous. Yes. You know, like,

C 

you have every right to just respond. We’re not open for submission.

K 

Yeah. So like, I don’t know, if you’re looking for it, if you’re dealing with a publisher like, and they have a personal account, I did say like, just set a monster personal account. You don’t even have to follow them, get their tweets, read what they tweet and get another disposition. And I welcome anybody reach out to our authors, we have gotten authors that way. And I love the authors we’ve gotten that way. Most of our authors are really transparent about the experience that they’re having. Listen to what the author say, and pay attention, because that will, what the other authors experience are, will be your experience. And if you’ve really, really liked somebody and really, really liked their mindset, and they’ve had a negative experience, you’re probably going to have a negative experience. Do you share that mindset? The same. So over on the tasty we’re going to talk about, I read the press we set out to be So it’s kind of an extent, extension of test, we won’t be talking about the differences of working in the US versus working, having a company in the US versus having a company in Japan. We kind of talked about that before. But this is a different we’re talking about an LLC versus an LLC. That’s kind of what this episode turned out to be. Yeah. So thank you for being a beautiful music note and listening. And I really wish I was better at promoting the podcast. Yeah, someday we’ll do that. Yeah. And thank you for, for giving us your time and attention. And follow us on over to the take too. And if you aren’t a patron, go ahead and join our Patreon. The music’s right with just the music’s on Patreon. Yep, that’s right. And you have like, at this point, like three years worth of stuff.

C 

Yeah, I think there might be the music I think on Patreon. Where the music’s in Japan.

K 

And Chad second book is coming on third where you get two books. Right and they’re good. I check out the reviews on that maracas on Goodreads and see why they’re getting on those library orders everywhere.

C 

Exactly.

K 

Yeah. Talk to you next week. Bye bye